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11-25-2019, 04:46 PM | #1 |
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Aftermarket seats for stock 3point belt?
Anyone have any experience fitting any seats other then pole positions or profi XL that work with the stock 3 point seat belt? Preferably something for someone who is 6'2" 190lbs lol. I'm slidin all over the place
Was looking at Cobra Nogaros which seem like a really good option but not sure if they would fit. The side thigh bolstering is low enough for factory belt and you can even retain heated seats. But other then nogaros I'm lost as to how to fix my sliding around problem |
11-25-2019, 05:15 PM | #2 |
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I have seen a few posts recently regarding aftermarket seats.
Now I have no idea of the Reg’s as regards track use but I drive my car fairly aggressively when able and have found the stock non M seats very good at keeping me in place. They were recovered in Alcantara and leather with increased hip and thigh bolster heights. Cost was comparable to AM race type seats.
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Very little space to work with being a 6'2" guy unfortunately. If I was an inch or 2 taller I wouldn't even fit in the car |
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11-26-2019, 09:37 AM | #4 |
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Few fixed-back seats have provisions for 3-pt belts, the vast majority have sides the are way too high and leave the lap belt not in contact with your body. I personally wouldn't take the risk on this.
Even the Recaro models you listed suffer from this. The exception would be the Recaro Pole Position ABE which I believe is only available in Europe. This is similar to the M4 GTS seat ($$$$$$) which allows the lap belt to be used properly. The only fixed-back seats I've seen that can safely accommodate a 3pt would be the aforementioned Recaro PP ABE, Cobra Nogaro, and Tillett B1/B5. Or the various OEM offerings (M3 CSL, M4 GTS, 991 GT2/GT3, etc.). Edit: I'm reading now that you're 6'2". If your plan is to also find a seat that can work with a 4/5/6pt harness, be aware that seats like the Recaro PP have shoulder harness holes that I've read can be too low and thus also create a very unsafe angle. While I've never used them, have you considered a CG-Lock with your stock seats? I've heard it's a decent half-measure and won't involve the headache of choosing an aftermarket seat entails.
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11-28-2019, 08:31 AM | #5 |
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I had a CG-Lock in my STi. A bit annoying in daily use but very functional otherwise. It essentially cinches the lap belt tightly in place, eliminating any inertia reel play from that section of the belt.
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Ty for the responses. Did not know the CG lock existed so will definitely be ordering that. Also will not be using harnesses and am aware of the lap belt issue with the fixed back seats which is why I was looking into the Nogaros. I only meant to reference the pole positions and profis(IIRC) to use as an example of what has been confirmed to fit into our cars. After some research I've learned that the Nogaros are actually more narrow then pole positions so in theory they should fit. However when I sat in PPs they were too tight. But I read one person with a 38 waist (bigger then I) fit comfortably snug into the nogaros that are more narrow which doesnt make much sense to me. Regardless will be calling HMS to get their input and probably take the risk of ordering without ever sitting in one. They can retain heated seats and can have a lumber functionality while being a fixed back seat that you can use with factory 3 point so cant really ask for more. |
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11-29-2019, 12:28 PM | #7 |
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You can buy a typical fixed back seat and run a seat belt extender that snakes through the side hole. That’s what I did with my Pole Positions prior to getting harnesses.
The seat height relative to your frame isn’t really an issue. Most seats are the same height or similar. It’s the shoulder width and hip areas that vary. The only height issue is shoulder belts for harnesses since those need to be at a specific angle but it’s moot it you’re sticking to factory 3 points. The Nogaro *should* fit. I don’t remember the exact measurements but I recall they were very similar to my old Pole Positions. If someone found the PP’s to be tight, it’s probably because of the side bolsters that come up which the Nogaros don’t have. Also the shoulder / back width tends to be narrow on the PP so if you like to lean back into the seat that could be an issue, i.e. the PP may “hug” you more around shoulders than a Nogaro which may be flatter in that area? |
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Very supportive, I find them quite comfortable to sit it but find them unbearable in 90+ heat with no A/C. No 'cushion' to them, however. |
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